The Pain Train

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Address: 455 Crane Dr. Big Bear Lake, CA 92315

Redfin: https://www.redfin.com/CA/Big-Bear-Lake/455-Crane-Dr-92315/home/3504641

Beds/Baths: 3 bed, 3 bath, 1,381 squares

Purchase Price (8/2022): $694,900

Asking Price: $679,000

Difference: -$15,900

Commission (5%): -$33,950

Total Gain/Loss: -$49,850

This is a cute house that looks to have been updated nicely and given the AirBnB Standardized Sprucing (ASS):  White paint, cutesy animal decor and mountain-inspired versions of Live, Laugh Love everywhere.

My least favorite aspect of the ASS treatment is open-faced kitchen cabinets with no doors.  Especially with a vacation home that goes unused most of the time, I can’t think of anything less enticing than constantly re-washing dishes due to dust buildups. 

It’s a trend that needs to die a horrible, excruciating death.

The flowery, over-the-top listing description is indicative of someone in deep denial about what’s happening in Big Bear right now.  Here are the first two sentences: 

“Discover the epitome of vintage charm and modern luxury in this exquisitely remodeled Maltby gem, capturing the essence of Big Bear Lake living. Located within walking distance of all the attractions that make Big Bear special, this property is a harmonious blend of nostalgia and contemporary comfort.”

Calm down, LOL.

This kind of hippy dippy description reeks of desperation, with the seller practically begging buyers to bail them out of their woefully ill-timed purchase.  This seller bought in August 2022 and exactly one year later they panicked and put it on the market for four grand more than they paid.  Optimism!

And by January 2024 they dropped the ask to $679,000, and it has been sitting at that money-losing price ever since.

And why haven’t they dropped the price any further?  Because they refuse to accept reality. And I understand how hard it is to admit that finding a buyer will require even more financial punishment than the 50 grand they’re already guaranteed to lose.

So they kneel at the altar of the price discovery gods and pray for salvation.

The good news is that if they put down 20 percent in 2022 ($139,000) they would still get a good chunk of that back if they sold today.  But if they only put down 10 percent then it’s pretty much all wiped out.  Bummer.

And, of course, getting out with only a $50,000 loss assumes the property sells today for full boat.  Given the roughly 450 properties for sale in Big Bear Lake right now, and the fact that this particular seller has been asking $679,000 since January with no luck, there is absolutely no way this sells for current ask.  Much more pain is on the way. 

Interested in buying?  Here is what you’re looking at:

Purchase price: $679,000

Down Payment (20%): $135,800

Monthly Payment: $4,684/mo (@7.5%)

You could surely cover some of the monthly nut by renting it out, assuming you have plenty of free time to deal with the inherent hassles and headaches of being a short-term landlord.  The fact is this place is really clean with nice updates and looks ready for AirBnB guests to fuck it up – I MEAN, enjoy the harmonious blend of nostalgia and contemporary comfort.

The guest house is a plus, and as a short-term rental I think it was a good move to convert the garage into a game room.  

The best part is this place is walking distance to Carl’s Jr.! 

Which will come in handy given the comically small kitchen.  Oof.

If the dishwasher door gets stuck in the down position would your kid just have to live in the kitchen forever?

Overall, I think this is an attractive home at a wildly unattractive price.  I’m sure the seller, like many other pandemic-era buyers, is hoping the Fed will drop rates soon to make their asking price seem less ridiculous.  However, every month that goes by waiting for that pipe dream to come true is another month of lighting cash on fire. 

If the seller doesn’t get serious soon, then it’s all aboard the Pain Train (on Crane). Because all it will take is a few desperate neighbors ripping off the Band-Aid and selling for big discounts for this seller’s $50,000 guaranteed loss to potentially turn into $100,000 overnight.

I feel bad for the position they’re in, but no amount of denial or optimistic thinking can overcome the reality of this declining market.

4 responses to “The Pain Train”

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    Anonymous

    LMAO. The ASS treatment.

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    Anonymous

    With this example and the Royal Tenenbaums example…. the loss seems to come more from realtor fees. A few examples, the listing price is pretty much the same as the purchase price but the real loss is in off loading these things. Unless you really have to sell, I would ride it out long term. Nothing is going to come from off loading short term or right now cause the market is just saturated and the interest rates are double what they were probably purchased at.

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      Big Bear Bummers

      I agree that the losses right now are mostly fees. But those losses represent selling TODAY at the current asking price. That obviously hasn’t happened, and won’t happen.

      So if they truly want to sell (rather than wasting everyone’s time trying to fish for that unicorn buyer) then they have to cut way more — and then the loss goes from mostly commissions, to mostly big chunks out of their down payment (hence their stubborn reluctance to cut). Nobody wants to admit they made a poor financial choice.

      You are right that they are better off pulling the listing and riding it out. The market will eventually recover. Yet here they are, actively on the market. Why? Because they need to get out, but they don’t want to eat shit on the sale. They’re stuck. But something has to give.

      All it takes is for a few desperate neighbors to cut aggressively and sell for 2019/2020 prices, then you have brand-new lows setting the comps.

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        Anonymous

        Them riding it out could be more than 5 years though. Clearly as investments they did not work out short term. This is proof you should not put all your eggs in one basket when it comes to your money that you invest. If they have to sell, take the loss now and fast. The science here definitely points to a brink of a huge correction.

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